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Spock on God by fiskefyren Spock on God by fiskefyren
This was supposed to have been quoted in “Star Trek: The Motion Picture” (the first Star Trek movie) but was left out due to the sensitivity of the subject (censorship makes people dumb and ignorant).
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ryu238 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015
The creating faulty humans thing is what really gets me. He gives man a flaw that he condemns them for...in other words, blaming us for something he did, like he needed an excuse to torture people for all eternally in hell. Not to mention that he must be both insecure and petty if he needs worship so much that even one person not doing it is condemned. It really puts into perspective how unjust he is. 
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015
Kinda like a drunken father hitting his kids because they cry, and they cry because he is hitting them... dat flawless logic! Religious logic one-on-one! Just like with this one fiskefyren.deviantart.com/art/…

What about the god who had to be tortured and killed by humans in order to allow himself to forgive them? XD

But yes, God has some serious psychological problems. He needs help :/ we need a hashtag for this XD
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ryu238 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015
"What about the god who had to be tortured and killed by humans in order to allow himself to forgive them?" How does that even work? Why does God need a sacrifice to forgive something he did? Can't he do it with out tortuing his son/himself? That is just insane. Also the part where Jesus says "Why have thou forsaken me God?" shows it wasn't a real sacrifice anyways...and he got out of hell in three days. Compared to Prometheus who was eternally tortured till freed by Hercules, Jesus got off way too easily. And off course people are still sinning and apparently going to hell, so it was worthless in the first place. The fact that God required a human sacrifice at all shows that he isn't all loving.  
Here is an issue I have with the free will defense. If god really cared about free will, he would save those who would have there free will violated by rapists and murders. That would promote the maximum amount of free will, but God chooses not too...because somehow that would violate free will...even though people are already having their free will violated in the situations I already mentioned, not too mention other sufferings like earthquakes, and diseases that don't seem to differentiate between 
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The-Conquerors Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
BURN! ~ C
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ZekeEugene Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2015
Best quote ever.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2015
:3
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ZekeEugene Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2015
Thanks, Fiskefyren.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2015
lol, you're welcome ^^
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ZekeEugene Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2015
Thor: The best deity ever!
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EnkiLilstA8411 Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014  Professional Artist
its a tyrant s :D (Big Grin) 
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AnyDifference Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2014  Hobbyist
This..... is perfect.
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280077s Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I love Spock, his awesomeness cannot be contained.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014
Honestly, I can't decide if I like him or Data better >_>
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280077s Featured By Owner Edited Aug 17, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I like them both equally, Spock from his series, and Data from TNG.
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madstarr12 Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Inb4apologetics.

They're just scared of him, they need to worship this God because they were poisoned as children, and were forced to believe in this. Too bad the amazing Spock wouldn't be enough to have these God people see through their forced beliefs, they probably think God is perfection, and that our minds can't comprehend it, so we have no right to criticize God in anyway. All due to an uneccessary fear.
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DasGhul Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014   General Artist
"Sensitivity of the subject."
Who cannot just LOVE this term! :iconiloveit-plz:
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014
I really hate sugarcoating and censoring... let facts be facts, darn it!
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DasGhul Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014   General Artist
Uhm, I was just being ironic there... :salute:
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1228248 Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2014
I can see spock telling McCoy that.
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38020 Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013
He forget ambivalence to suffering.
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GodDragonKing Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2013
Good old Spock with his Vulcan logic, it never gets old, even if he does.
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Suffer360 Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2013
Not a big Star Trek guy, but this is an amazing quote. Totally with Spock.
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Libberachi Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014   Digital Artist
I just love when people can't fuckin' READ and can't deal with with reality.

And yes, that was sarcasm in the most epic sense in the history of ever.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013
It was the best "WTF" picture I could find of him :) I'm well aware it wasn't from the movie.

Hm? I'm fairly sure Spock was an Agnostic, it's the only thing that would make logical sense.

Spock is a man of reason, understanding and science, so obviously he would have problems with faith and religion that offers no logical arguments or any sort of evidence.

I'm not putting words into his mouth, this actually stands in the script for the movie.

Not true, it was taken out because the vast majority of Americans are Christians, so they just censored their own movie, which is a real shame.

You should very much like someone who is in denial, are you by any change a Christian? You sure sound like one with all the butt hurt, I'm sorry but this is the reality.
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Libberachi Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014   Digital Artist
Lolwut. Nothing about what he said in this quote was out of character - YOU just have too much wishful thinking and a severe disconnect from reality. I love how you couldn't even be bothered to respond to the poor person you're harassing in the end. Sucks to be such an immature brat like you, I guess. :lol:

Also, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if both of these accounts with the suspicious lack of icons are both sockpuppets for some other sad turd who refuses to accept reality.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2013
WOW... you really are in denial... you shouldn't be a Christian by any change? I've done nothing beside informing you of the truth but you don't seem to like the truth, which is pretty normal for a Theist (the complete denial of reality). And who the fuck cares about my "demeanour"? You simply don't like facts and I won't sugarcoat reality so it's more pleasing to you.
-with love from an Agnostic 
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Libberachi Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014   Digital Artist
I love you so freakin' much, you have no idea. XD
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LyricalSealion Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2013  Student General Artist
I have seen every single original "Star Trek" episode, and I don't recall Spoke ever making this speech.  Which episode does it come from?  Exactly?
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2013
You should read the description my friend, it'll answer all of your questions :)
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BlondBeastBoy Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2013
Creating the universe seems impressive enough.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2013
How long did that take him again?
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BlondBeastBoy Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2013
No idea, but it's better than John Frink's discovery of Frinkonium.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2013
*facepalm* soccer nerds... *sigh*
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IAmTheUnison Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I'm with Spock 100% on this one! =D
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013
Well, that would be the "logical" choice :D
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IAmTheUnison Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Indeed. =D
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wallbie Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Not that much of a Trekkie, except for the second movie, but I love this quote.  It's great.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013
Just a shame it was removed from the movie because they knew Americans would be really butthurt about it *sigh*
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wallbie Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Oh, but giving terrorist acts the Hollywood treatment doesn't... especially when they focus on Americans acting heroic in the wake of a said tragedy.  That stuff is what really turns me off.  That's why I've still not seen stuff like "Zero Dark Thirty" or any of the 9/11 movies that came out about ten years ago.

Americans can have all kinds of media forcing them in one way or another to relive some type of tragedy and get themselves desensitized from it, but you talk shit about the christian god and they're up in arms.  Also, it's cool for christians to push their beliefs and crap on everyone else, but if you say anything otherwise or let a "goddamn" slip, you really see that butthurt attitude come out.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013
There is a reason for why I'm very anti-america I really hate them... "american is the greatest country in the world" yes... greatest... it has the greatest debt in the entire world, most of it's people have no education, 14% of them can't even fucking read! over 80% of them believe that a guy sits in the sky and watches over them... they know more about reality shows than they do their own history or their so beloved Bible, they're amongst the most ignorant of people in the entire world... and i haven't even touch all their bullshit aspects! America is a piece of shit, full of dumb, fat, uneducated, misinformed retards...

Sorry... you were saying? ah, yes! Wave that great flag all over the place and pissing on everyone else and still be like "We're number one!" yes... that is America... how pitiful... i've given up their movies, i'll never forget the pearl harbour one where the Japanese attacked the hospital... in reality they didn't even shatter a single window on any such facilities... American just demonise them like they do everyone else, because only America is true and just! Trust me, if American didn't have all the military power that they do, they would be broken and shatter now from all the enemies that they have made themselves, just waiting to have their moment of vengeance over the ignorance and stupidity that is America.

wow... i'm really getting out of topic here, i'm just a little more spiteful today... but yes! we're right... heck, you ever seen fox news and how they try to trash people that doesn't suck the some God cock as they do? such loving Christians... wow... talking about stupidity in it's purest form... but yes, you're absolutely right! maybe you should leave that horrible place? 
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wallbie Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Trust me, my wife and I have been talking about that on and off for nearly a decade.  We've been looking at Canada, but if we really had the means, I'm sure we'd spirit away to Europe or something.  I agree there's quite a bit of the herd who are as you describe.  I don't usually watch TV unless I put in a movie or if it's something my son wants to watch.  Still, I wasn't cheering with the masses over here when bin Laden died.  The only interest I'd have had in him is if he were hiding in my backyard and I could point the FBI, CIA, Team America World Police, whoever in his direction and collect the bounty on him.  LOL

Point I'm trying to make is that it's all bullshit.  Just because I was born here doesn't mean I have to pledge allegiance.  Money makes the world go round, and I'd likely go somewhere else I felt more proud to be a part of, if I had the means to do so.  That's how I feel, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone in my situation over in a place like Afghanistan, Baghdad, South Korea, or any other country feels the same way.  Why should I hate on some stranger from the damn Middle East whether they're here in this country or residing in a country that wants to blow us all up to holy hell?  At the end of the day, that person is doing the same as me: trying to provide for his family, and just trying to make it through the daily grind of bullshit.

I used to be really angry about this country during Bush 43's administration, but I ended up saying "fuck it" because the machine's too big and has been in motion for too long.  Perhaps one of these days someone will be utterly successful in an overthrow, a vacation from all the bullshit will begin and real living will begin.  Honestly, my money's on it happening internally.  We might end up being the next Egypt!  LOL

When and if it ever happens in my lifetime, I'm likely going to be much older and going to give less of a shit than I do now.  Of course, I'm going to be more concerned about the immediate welfare of my loved ones and not the welfare of the state, just like the other guy in my shoes on the other side of the world.  Still, knowledge is power and having the knowledge to see past the anesthesia... (Fuck, it's really more a placebo), that things like religion and political influence truly are is what can empower those who truly can make a difference.
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Master-of-the-Boot Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Logic works out so well :) 
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013
is humans were a bit more logical we would be in a far less shitty world all of us.
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Master-of-the-Boot Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Some religious folk say that getting rid of religion wouldn't solve anything. I think of religion like a runny nose, it's a symptom of the disease and not the disease itself, but it's still pretty shitty
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2013
Well, at the core the problem is ignorance but religion breeds ignorance, so getting rid of religion would go a long way.
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Senka-Gurigo Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013
Thanks for posting.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2013
You're most welcome.
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