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Spock on God by fiskefyren Spock on God by fiskefyren
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Spock on Godby fiskefyren

Digital Art / Photomanipulation / Political©2013-2015 fiskefyren
This was supposed to have been quoted in “Star Trek: The Motion Picture” (the first Star Trek movie) but was left out due to the sensitivity of the subject (censorship makes people dumb and ignorant).
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RainbowDashFanboy Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2015
I love everything about this. However, the contradictions and flaws in religion is not the main reason why I dislike it. I more so dislike it because it makes people's minds docile and content to not finding the real truth. They fear the unknown, so they trust on religion to fill in the blanks of what we don't know rather than to work on finding the actual information on why or how something happens. 
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2015
I agree and you're correct. I just like to beat Christians in the head with my far superior knowledge of their religion. I find it amusing. Maybe because I'm a sadist ^^
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RainbowDashFanboy Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2015
Perhaps you are. Although, your intimate knowledge of what the bible actually says may be the reason you do not believe in it. I try to avoid beating them into submission with their own religion, but rather with logic. I guess you can say we have different tactics, but the same goal. Personally, as I stated before, the biggest issue I have with religion (Christians especially) is the anti-intellectual culture that goes with it in modern times. Hundreds of years ago I could at least say great music and art came out of it (Mozart's Requiem mass in D minor for example)....but that's gone now. To me religiously motivated or not those pieces of culture should be honored, but as art about mythology rather than truth. 
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2015
That is exactly the point I was trying to make here: fiskefyren.deviantart.com/art/…

Well, maybe a combination of the two would be better? 25% of the Bible and 75% logic or such. But I find the logic thing a little too tiresome, it's like teaching sheep math... religion and logic just doesn't go well together. I honestly don't have the patience for it most of the time. I do, do it now and then, but then I got to be in the right mood for it.

Yes... "how do you explain a sunset without god?" and "if we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?" comes to mind...

Agree.
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RainbowDashFanboy Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2015
Typically when confronted with arguments that imbecilic I usually just walk away.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2015
Yeah... but I just get pissed off and end up insulting them instead.
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RainbowDashFanboy Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2015
Most of the time I just tell myself they are an inefficient use of my energy. 
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ryu238 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015
The creating faulty humans thing is what really gets me. He gives man a flaw that he condemns them for...in other words, blaming us for something he did, like he needed an excuse to torture people for all eternally in hell. Not to mention that he must be both insecure and petty if he needs worship so much that even one person not doing it is condemned. It really puts into perspective how unjust he is. 
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015
Kinda like a drunken father hitting his kids because they cry, and they cry because he is hitting them... dat flawless logic! Religious logic one-on-one! Just like with this one fiskefyren.deviantart.com/art/…

What about the god who had to be tortured and killed by humans in order to allow himself to forgive them? XD

But yes, God has some serious psychological problems. He needs help :/ we need a hashtag for this XD
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ryu238 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015
"What about the god who had to be tortured and killed by humans in order to allow himself to forgive them?" How does that even work? Why does God need a sacrifice to forgive something he did? Can't he do it with out tortuing his son/himself? That is just insane. Also the part where Jesus says "Why have thou forsaken me God?" shows it wasn't a real sacrifice anyways...and he got out of hell in three days. Compared to Prometheus who was eternally tortured till freed by Hercules, Jesus got off way too easily. And off course people are still sinning and apparently going to hell, so it was worthless in the first place. The fact that God required a human sacrifice at all shows that he isn't all loving.  
Here is an issue I have with the free will defense. If god really cared about free will, he would save those who would have there free will violated by rapists and murders. That would promote the maximum amount of free will, but God chooses not too...because somehow that would violate free will...even though people are already having their free will violated in the situations I already mentioned, not too mention other sufferings like earthquakes, and diseases that don't seem to differentiate between 
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The-Conquerors Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
BURN! ~ C
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ZekeEugene Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2015
Best quote ever.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2015
:3
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ZekeEugene Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2015
Thanks, Fiskefyren.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2015
lol, you're welcome ^^
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ZekeEugene Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2015
Thor: The best deity ever!
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ZekeEugene Featured By Owner Edited Jan 31, 2015
Whoops, I'm sorry, wrong comment's section for me to type that...
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EnkiLilstA8411 Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014  Professional Artist
its a tyrant s :D (Big Grin) 
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AnyDifference Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2014  Hobbyist
This..... is perfect.
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280077s Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I love Spock, his awesomeness cannot be contained.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014
Honestly, I can't decide if I like him or Data better >_>
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280077s Featured By Owner Edited Aug 17, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I like them both equally, Spock from his series, and Data from TNG.
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madstarr12 Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Inb4apologetics.

They're just scared of him, they need to worship this God because they were poisoned as children, and were forced to believe in this. Too bad the amazing Spock wouldn't be enough to have these God people see through their forced beliefs, they probably think God is perfection, and that our minds can't comprehend it, so we have no right to criticize God in anyway. All due to an uneccessary fear.
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DasGhul Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014   General Artist
"Sensitivity of the subject."
Who cannot just LOVE this term! :iconiloveit-plz:
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014
I really hate sugarcoating and censoring... let facts be facts, darn it!
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DasGhul Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014   General Artist
Uhm, I was just being ironic there... :salute:
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1228248 Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2014
I can see spock telling McCoy that.
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38020 Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013
He forget ambivalence to suffering.
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GodDragonKing Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2013
Good old Spock with his Vulcan logic, it never gets old, even if he does.
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Suffer360 Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2013
Not a big Star Trek guy, but this is an amazing quote. Totally with Spock.
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Libberachi Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014   Digital Artist
I just love when people can't fuckin' READ and can't deal with with reality.

And yes, that was sarcasm in the most epic sense in the history of ever.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013
It was the best "WTF" picture I could find of him :) I'm well aware it wasn't from the movie.

Hm? I'm fairly sure Spock was an Agnostic, it's the only thing that would make logical sense.

Spock is a man of reason, understanding and science, so obviously he would have problems with faith and religion that offers no logical arguments or any sort of evidence.

I'm not putting words into his mouth, this actually stands in the script for the movie.

Not true, it was taken out because the vast majority of Americans are Christians, so they just censored their own movie, which is a real shame.

You should very much like someone who is in denial, are you by any change a Christian? You sure sound like one with all the butt hurt, I'm sorry but this is the reality.
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Libberachi Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014   Digital Artist
Lolwut. Nothing about what he said in this quote was out of character - YOU just have too much wishful thinking and a severe disconnect from reality. I love how you couldn't even be bothered to respond to the poor person you're harassing in the end. Sucks to be such an immature brat like you, I guess. :lol:

Also, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if both of these accounts with the suspicious lack of icons are both sockpuppets for some other sad turd who refuses to accept reality.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2013
WOW... you really are in denial... you shouldn't be a Christian by any change? I've done nothing beside informing you of the truth but you don't seem to like the truth, which is pretty normal for a Theist (the complete denial of reality). And who the fuck cares about my "demeanour"? You simply don't like facts and I won't sugarcoat reality so it's more pleasing to you.
-with love from an Agnostic 
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Libberachi Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2014   Digital Artist
I love you so freakin' much, you have no idea. XD
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LyricalSealion Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2013  Student General Artist
I have seen every single original "Star Trek" episode, and I don't recall Spoke ever making this speech.  Which episode does it come from?  Exactly?
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2013
You should read the description my friend, it'll answer all of your questions :)
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BlondBeastBoy Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2013
Creating the universe seems impressive enough.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2013
How long did that take him again?
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BlondBeastBoy Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2013
No idea, but it's better than John Frink's discovery of Frinkonium.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2013
*facepalm* soccer nerds... *sigh*
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IAmTheUnison Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I'm with Spock 100% on this one! =D
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013
Well, that would be the "logical" choice :D
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IAmTheUnison Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Indeed. =D
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wallbie Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Not that much of a Trekkie, except for the second movie, but I love this quote.  It's great.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013
Just a shame it was removed from the movie because they knew Americans would be really butthurt about it *sigh*
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wallbie Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Oh, but giving terrorist acts the Hollywood treatment doesn't... especially when they focus on Americans acting heroic in the wake of a said tragedy.  That stuff is what really turns me off.  That's why I've still not seen stuff like "Zero Dark Thirty" or any of the 9/11 movies that came out about ten years ago.

Americans can have all kinds of media forcing them in one way or another to relive some type of tragedy and get themselves desensitized from it, but you talk shit about the christian god and they're up in arms.  Also, it's cool for christians to push their beliefs and crap on everyone else, but if you say anything otherwise or let a "goddamn" slip, you really see that butthurt attitude come out.
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fiskefyren Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013
There is a reason for why I'm very anti-america I really hate them... "american is the greatest country in the world" yes... greatest... it has the greatest debt in the entire world, most of it's people have no education, 14% of them can't even fucking read! over 80% of them believe that a guy sits in the sky and watches over them... they know more about reality shows than they do their own history or their so beloved Bible, they're amongst the most ignorant of people in the entire world... and i haven't even touch all their bullshit aspects! America is a piece of shit, full of dumb, fat, uneducated, misinformed retards...

Sorry... you were saying? ah, yes! Wave that great flag all over the place and pissing on everyone else and still be like "We're number one!" yes... that is America... how pitiful... i've given up their movies, i'll never forget the pearl harbour one where the Japanese attacked the hospital... in reality they didn't even shatter a single window on any such facilities... American just demonise them like they do everyone else, because only America is true and just! Trust me, if American didn't have all the military power that they do, they would be broken and shatter now from all the enemies that they have made themselves, just waiting to have their moment of vengeance over the ignorance and stupidity that is America.

wow... i'm really getting out of topic here, i'm just a little more spiteful today... but yes! we're right... heck, you ever seen fox news and how they try to trash people that doesn't suck the some God cock as they do? such loving Christians... wow... talking about stupidity in it's purest form... but yes, you're absolutely right! maybe you should leave that horrible place? 
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